The Weapons of SOF2

[GeneralH]

Ok so here we are...I must say that I am getting a little tired of the non stop bitching I get about my choice of weapons. Honestly those who have a problem need to get a life, get laid, or get a stiff drink. I understand why those people would be upset, I would too if I had my ass handed to me a few hours in a row. I play for a few reason, to have fun, to kill a lot of people, and to get a score I can be happy with. Notice that I do not play to impress people.

So its clear that some people are not upto speed on the whole gun issue. The guns in the game are very well balenced. Back in the Q2/Q3 days we all knew which weapons were better and it was a race for the bfg .

So lets take a look here: We have damage vs skill. Now there is a mix of the two in some cases, for example a weapon with little skill should be weak but in some cases the weapon could be very powerfull but be limited to the point of being worhtless. A quick example of a easy to use but powerfull would have to be the new hand gun. Its beyond powerfull to the point that its like a cannon but the kick back is so high that shooting quickly is a waste of time.

The knife (oh how sweet it is , it takes a lot of skill to use and because of this a single knife shot can take 65~99% of your power. Where does the skill come in, the simple fact that you can only toss one at a time, you only have 5 to toss and you have to be within tossing range to hit anyone. This weapon isn't used much simply because in a fight vs a gun, chances are you're not walking away.

On the flip side you have the AK, sorry to say to all those who feel its a "real" weapon but it doesn't take much to point and shoot from a distance. "Put you need skill to aim", yeah the same can be said for any of the weapons....But if you can kill in 2 shots everytime why does it take most people 20 rounds to nail someone. The weapon needs very little skill to use but has a lot of power and its range is very good. The major downfall to this is the fact that the kick back on the weapon can cause you to miss if you try to lay into someone.

The sniper rifle: Can take almost all of your power when hit, can also kill with a single shot to the head. High damage comes at a price - you can't see anyone close to you which leaves you wide open to be shot or knifed by a certain General . Its also quite slow to change to normal view mode and run.....Most of the time a close nade will get you.

Uzi: Shoots fast, can do major damage, very nice weapon up close. Down fall, it can't hit shit from a distance. Those who learn to use it well can kill from a distance but its not anywhere as easy as a AK.

Auto Shot (Gen's Fav): Very powerfull, shoots fast, a wide area shot. From that alone this sounds like a kick ass gun, but as stated many times power comes at a price. For one, this weapon can't hit anything past 7 feet in front of it. For those who think this is bullshit you're welome to take this gun, point it at a wall and see just how much damage it does as you move away. From 10 feet I was unable to break a window.....How sad is that. Also this gun has a huge kick back which makes it simular to the AK after the first shot. Last major issue is the number of rounds, with only a short number and fast fire - you run out quickly which can spell the end vs a AK with 3 times more rounds.

So why all the bitching...."oh I have been noobed". No, you are a noob for falling to me in the first place. In a open area my auto vs a AK, I am dead every time....why you ask, simple, the AK can hit targets within your field of view. For those who are slow thats kick ass, while poor Gen still needs to make up 60 percent ground between myself and the target before my weapon can even scratch you. So here is the problem, why did "Enter cry baby here" take a AK which can be used both up close and far away AND (yeah here is the kicker) allow a person such as Gen who is known for close range kills (ah the way of the knife) to get close enough to use the Auto?

Bottom line is this - All weapons in the game are equal. If you take a AK and sit down a street picking off people is that better than taking a close range weapon and picking people off as I run around a corner? If you plan on playing this game where the chances of running into someone at close range are 90% would it not be smart to take the best gun for the job? I know for a fact I am going to run into all of you in the areas that I play and because of that I am equiped to kill as many of you as possible in the shortest amount of time. Last time I checked the goal was not to look good with a AK on the ground bleeding. Its to kill and allow your team to complete the goal at hand. In CTF don't bother to look for me by a flag, my job is to get right up close and A) Kill enough people to allow the runners in and B) To kill enough people to allow the runners to get away. See how simple that is?

So to bring this to an end, I will continue to use the weapon I want on the levels I choose to play. If anyone has a problem with this they should take a time out and re-think how they play and perhaps stay clear of those up close and personal moments with me.

[Undead_Mercenary]

U know what gen? I absolutly agree with u. It doesnt matter which gun u take, all guns have there ups and downs. Its a shame some ppl get pissed off at their lack of attention(i admit i do sometimes) and skill. But man, you had a lot to say up there. But i would of liked a description of every gun, like the M4 or MP5. But i would like to make something clear : I dont care if u say that all the guns are equal, i still think that RPG is noob!!! :grab:

[Archangelus]

Was it someone in our guild or outside?

[FatGayOrc]

ya, i get the same flak, generalH. the usas is the *funnest* gun in the game. it gets frustrating when being mowed down repeated by it, but it's in the game so i roll with it when i'm the one being *noobed*. [lame word, btw]

when people bug me, GeneralH, i let them blow their horn a few minutes and if they persist, i type *stfu 'bout the usas its in the game*. the regulars usually leave me alone and the irregulars usually leave then.

and Arch, i havent seen any PHX member give grief to a fellow member. it comes from outside the clan from what i've seen.

so inconclusion, *pad them stats up with usas kills GeneralH*

i do...


p.s. - while i'm on the topic of stats, i'm listed twice on some of the top 100's. PHX-FatGayOrc, fatgayorc and DR's fav orc!!too bad they arent totalled for the month
oh well, there's always next month....

[GeneralH]

The RPG isn't a noob weapon. Sure it will kill anyone it hits or even anyone near by when you miss but what draws the line clear in the sand is the number of shots you have. With only 3 rockets even on your best day you will not score more than 6 kills in total. On top of that its easy to dodge and does not allow any up close fighting since you die as well.

The only real "noob" weapon in the game is the nade launcher. Its beyond powerfull, can kill if you hit, come close, or somewhat near by. It has range, you can use it up close, you can use it to kill people around corners or in odd places, it fires quickly and it can hold a lot of rounds.

Every weapon in the game has its draw backs with the AK being the best general weapon you can use. Then it comes down to play style, do you like sitting back or getting in close. I am the guy you can expect in the front of the line with no fear looking to take you out.

[Undead_Mercenary]

Gen, i do agree with u about the MM1. Yes it is probable the most noobiest(not even a word) gun in the game. But i dont care what u say... WHATEVER GUN CAN KILL SOME1 IN ONE SHOT WITHOUT EVEN TRYING IS NOOOOOOBBBBB!!!!! :drinking:

[XoR]

I'm really beginning to dig the MP5.

She's a little difficult to get right, but once ya get the hang of it ... that crackerjack knuckle crunchin sound is music to the ears.

Now, the USAS is basically tagged a noob weapon because from the beginning, people needed something to bitch and complain about, so "noob cannon" stuck. It became part of the culture without people really knowing what they were saying. Personally, I think the USAS has its close corridor usefullness and conversely has many disadvantages. That to me means it pretty balanced. And its sad but true that I avoid using it ONLY to avoid the ridicule. :/

The RPG brings out the Rambo in all of us, delightfully hail-marying this blazing fireball while erupting our victims into a fountain of tomato paste.


Aaah, the fun! :bday:

[Sillow]

hehe. I only call it the noob cannon to piss people off

But essentially, being a dissenter, here's what I find wrong with it:

The recoil of the target is waaaaay too high. Now, if you have armor, it usually takes 3-4 shots to kill you (and 1 if you're like me, eep), but in those 3-4 shots, it's impossible to turn around or what not. It doesn't happen with other guns, just that one for some reason. Hell, if you see the guy in front of you, you can't return fire. At least, in my experience.

The "noob turn:" Essentially, fire the autoshotty before you turn and keep firing it and you'll take out any camper without a chance because as said before, 3 shots will kill, and you can't move.

Also, it's enchanced from the SP version of it... Probably to make it playable, but still, in 2 shots in SP you'd be hitting the ceiling. The autoshotgun in real life was meant to beat the damned pump reload that most shotguns have. And since it's magazine loaded.. Our avatars in game must have pumped arms to be able to use it.