hey hey,
Well 8 hours into online SoF2 and I am definitely better than most n00bs, so gimme some tips and tricks damnit :p.
my thoughts are this...
move jump and crouch to mouse button
infrared >> night vision
how the heck to I put down the props on the big machinegun to make it more steady
I will have more soon I am sure. hehe
Yaz
need some peeps to show me the ropes :)
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This forum is updated so that people do not have to register on both the website and the forums. Now, it's one registration. Everything is integrated. There are some color schemes with this new forum theme i don't like. I'll see what I can do to change them.
If you have thoughts, post them in the Website Suggestions forum. I'd like to keep this thread on Yazule's topic.
Yazule,
As far as I know, you can't "stabilize" the M60. The AK74 and M590 are what I use for my weapons. I use the M590 the most for it's power and the AK for it's range. There are power differences between all the guns, but all will damage armor, it just may take more shots.
-Arch
If you have thoughts, post them in the Website Suggestions forum. I'd like to keep this thread on Yazule's topic.
Yazule,
As far as I know, you can't "stabilize" the M60. The AK74 and M590 are what I use for my weapons. I use the M590 the most for it's power and the AK for it's range. There are power differences between all the guns, but all will damage armor, it just may take more shots.
-Arch
I've found a damage analysis to be similar to this...
Sniper Rifle - Good if you wanna camp it. You have to have pretty freakin good eyes to use it in close range because it has no crosshair. It can kill anyone in a maof 2 shots to any body part.
Sig - Also known as a 'watered down OCIW' Similar to the sniper rifle. The damage is tuned down though. It is basically if you have really good aim, or are gonna sneak up on people. You need to have pretty much all shots you fire to hit in the head or close to it. If you shoot someone in the body with this gun the armor will absorb almost all of the damage and it can take up to about 7 shots in the body to take someone down.
Ak-74 - The most popular gun in Sof2. The Ak has a good firing rate in close combat and if you know how to shoot it you can pick off people at far distances. The bayonett is a good touch if youre experianced and you wanna show someone that they suck or that they were completly snook up on. I find that it can take anywhere from 1-5 shots to kill a person if they all hit. So most likely about 7 shots to a person, you should be able to get about 8 guys in a row with the ak before you have to get a backpack.
M4 - A good gun for starting out. Most advanced players will learn to use the Ak. The M4 has a little bit less accuracy and a little less damage. The bullets seem to have a slight knockback to them and the recoil is a little higher. The M203 is a good secondary function but it doesn't work like grenades contrary to popular beleif. It is very hard to take down multiple enemies with the M203. The only way to do it is to basically hit the ground or to hit a wall behind them. If one person is hit by the M203 odds are the people around them will only sustain minimal damage. The M4 is a good gun to mess up your opponet's aim. It will most likely knock them a little off when you fire it. It has about the same rate of damage to body parts and armor absorbtion as the Ak but its slightly lower.
Mp5 - The M5p is the most accurate gun ion the game other than the sniper rifle. If has a low recoil and can inflict heavy damage. Most advanced players have a habbit of aming for the head when they shoot. If they have this gun they will most likely be able to pull off a headshot a good portion fo the time. The only reason why most people don't do this is because the damage is between that of the Sig and the M4. It does a little bit less than the m4 but more that the Sig. Also for some reason I think it just might be my head but it seems to do more damage from the back of someone than the front. Maybe because the area is more exposed but I've experimented with different guns and found it to do more. It will take about 1-7 shots to hit a person and kill them. It will most likely be closer to 3 or 4 though.
USAS-12 - The automatic shotgun, this gun is very popular with people. This gun is almost identical to the shotgun but when people use it if they go on full auto and don't click the mouse but they hold it down it becomes less accurate. The clip size is 2 shotts bigger than the Shotgun. Many people who use this gun are called noobs but I think that anyone who can use this gun at both long and far distance is worthy of carying it. It just gets annoying when people camp the flag next to it and just blow anyone they see with the flag. The Usas is also harder to aim because for players who usually aim for the head, the bullets most likely scatter above the person's head. The best thign to do with this gun is to aim at the body. The armor absorbtion is heavy but its the only way to garuntee hits. The USAS will usually take about 2-3 shots to kill someone. Headshots are rare with this gun.
MM1 - This gun is banned from the PHX server but it's basically a gun with 10 shots of the M203. they arc a little less and do a little more damage though.
RPG-7 - This is the rocket Launcher, also banned from the PHX server. It fires straight with amost no arc. It is best to shoipt it at the ground in front of someone and hope to get blast damage to the group. Or you can go for a wall behind someone and hope to hit a group, but this gun, like the M203, and MM1 should not be aimed at one single person if there is a group of people. It will most likely only take one person in the group out that way.
I think thats all the primary weapons...
Now thew secondary.
M590 (Shotgun) - The shotgun is the most preffered gun in combination with the Ak. It inflicts damage much like the USAS but the recoil is heavier and it fires slower. It is more accurate but the shots contain less pelets. (Yes I counted against a wall...) It usually gets a headshot more time than the USAS if you jump around while in a close combat fight. I stroongly advise against uising this gun for a distance of more that 8 feet. IT will take a different ammount of shots demepding on how many pelets hit a person to kill them but I would say it takes about 2-4 shots to kills someone.
M3A1 - My favorite gun of choice. I think I'm top ont he stats for it too! Anyway this in my opinon, not proven by fact like the other guns, is possibly the best gun in the game IF you know how to use it. The recoil on it is unique. If you learn to use the recoil it can be one of the most accurate guns at long range. In close range fights if someone is using the Sig, M4, Mp5, or Ak it is usually beter. In order for it to better you need to know how to avoid bullets. Basically you just jump around in a circle. You both fire at each other but the guy on the machine gun will run out of ammo before you when you have about 10 shots left. This is your chance. Just go for a headshot at this point. I think the M3A1 is also a good gun to sneak up on people with, the sound sometimes scares them. It usually takes about 1-4 shots to kill someone with the Greaser. I usually get headshots with this gun. Usually you only have to put 4 shots into someone's chest before they die, the bullets tear out allot of armor.
Micro Uzi - I don't have much experiance with this gun but I do know it inflicts allot of damage. If you have a good spot where you can get close to the person and make all of the bullets hit it usually takes about 10-15 shots to kill a person. The firing rate, however, is extremly fast. It takes the same time to shoot about 6 bullets fomr the ak then it does to shot about 10 form the micro uzi. The armor absorbtion is a little heavy but this gun fires so fast its usually unnoticible if you sneak up on someone, and you get the first shot by suprising them, youre gonna kill them.
Now Pistols
M1911A1 Colt - This pistol does allot of damage but has a smaller clip size than the socom. Both his gun adn the SOCOM have the same ammound of accuracy but the SOCOM does less damage. The Colt is more for people who know that their bullets are gonna hit the person. It takes offically at the most 3 bullets to kill a person. I'm getting hat from DenKirson who leades the stats on the Colt gun. Hes a ally to GT and I know him personally.
SOCOM - Its really a shame that they saved all of the cool gadgets for single player but itd be cool to have some of those in the Muitiplayer Version. The SOCOM has a bigger clip than the Colt which means that sometimes it is a better choice. I'm not sure on exactly how many bullets it takes to kill a person but I think its about 2-5 for the SOCOM. Armor doesn't slow down the damage of this gun. If you have no armor and if you have armor it will do the same ammount of damage. But of course it depends on the damage zone you hit, but armor is still unaffected.
Black Talon - This gun is like a shotgun pistol. I find that the range is short but the damage is pretty decent. It absorbs armor much like the shotgun, but the distance is much less. It takes about 2-4 shots of this to hit someone.
Now grenades
Frag - These are the most commonly used grenades. They have a good blast radius and can take out mass numbers of people at once.
Incinedary - These are good to make blockades if you know the person you're trying to blockade has less than full health. They don't do allot of damage but they can scare people. Like Arch said this is the only weapon in the game that doesn't bother with armor If you get hit with this or walk in it your health will just go down and your armor will stay full.
Flash - Use these only when no teamates are around, it gets annoying to be flashed by your own team. They're good for suprise but you can't tell how much someone has been flashed so you kinda just have to go on instict by how the person is moving around after they've been hit.
Smoke - These are good to throw with a fire nade. They disguise the fire. They are also good to block a hallway and to suprise the enemy.
and finally
Knives - You have to learn how to use these by arching and cutting but their purpose is similar to the bayonett of the AK. Also you can use them on someone in a tower if youre out of nades.
Finally I can brethe... Hope that helps!
Sniper Rifle - Good if you wanna camp it. You have to have pretty freakin good eyes to use it in close range because it has no crosshair. It can kill anyone in a maof 2 shots to any body part.
Sig - Also known as a 'watered down OCIW' Similar to the sniper rifle. The damage is tuned down though. It is basically if you have really good aim, or are gonna sneak up on people. You need to have pretty much all shots you fire to hit in the head or close to it. If you shoot someone in the body with this gun the armor will absorb almost all of the damage and it can take up to about 7 shots in the body to take someone down.
Ak-74 - The most popular gun in Sof2. The Ak has a good firing rate in close combat and if you know how to shoot it you can pick off people at far distances. The bayonett is a good touch if youre experianced and you wanna show someone that they suck or that they were completly snook up on. I find that it can take anywhere from 1-5 shots to kill a person if they all hit. So most likely about 7 shots to a person, you should be able to get about 8 guys in a row with the ak before you have to get a backpack.
M4 - A good gun for starting out. Most advanced players will learn to use the Ak. The M4 has a little bit less accuracy and a little less damage. The bullets seem to have a slight knockback to them and the recoil is a little higher. The M203 is a good secondary function but it doesn't work like grenades contrary to popular beleif. It is very hard to take down multiple enemies with the M203. The only way to do it is to basically hit the ground or to hit a wall behind them. If one person is hit by the M203 odds are the people around them will only sustain minimal damage. The M4 is a good gun to mess up your opponet's aim. It will most likely knock them a little off when you fire it. It has about the same rate of damage to body parts and armor absorbtion as the Ak but its slightly lower.
Mp5 - The M5p is the most accurate gun ion the game other than the sniper rifle. If has a low recoil and can inflict heavy damage. Most advanced players have a habbit of aming for the head when they shoot. If they have this gun they will most likely be able to pull off a headshot a good portion fo the time. The only reason why most people don't do this is because the damage is between that of the Sig and the M4. It does a little bit less than the m4 but more that the Sig. Also for some reason I think it just might be my head but it seems to do more damage from the back of someone than the front. Maybe because the area is more exposed but I've experimented with different guns and found it to do more. It will take about 1-7 shots to hit a person and kill them. It will most likely be closer to 3 or 4 though.
USAS-12 - The automatic shotgun, this gun is very popular with people. This gun is almost identical to the shotgun but when people use it if they go on full auto and don't click the mouse but they hold it down it becomes less accurate. The clip size is 2 shotts bigger than the Shotgun. Many people who use this gun are called noobs but I think that anyone who can use this gun at both long and far distance is worthy of carying it. It just gets annoying when people camp the flag next to it and just blow anyone they see with the flag. The Usas is also harder to aim because for players who usually aim for the head, the bullets most likely scatter above the person's head. The best thign to do with this gun is to aim at the body. The armor absorbtion is heavy but its the only way to garuntee hits. The USAS will usually take about 2-3 shots to kill someone. Headshots are rare with this gun.
MM1 - This gun is banned from the PHX server but it's basically a gun with 10 shots of the M203. they arc a little less and do a little more damage though.
RPG-7 - This is the rocket Launcher, also banned from the PHX server. It fires straight with amost no arc. It is best to shoipt it at the ground in front of someone and hope to get blast damage to the group. Or you can go for a wall behind someone and hope to hit a group, but this gun, like the M203, and MM1 should not be aimed at one single person if there is a group of people. It will most likely only take one person in the group out that way.
I think thats all the primary weapons...
Now thew secondary.
M590 (Shotgun) - The shotgun is the most preffered gun in combination with the Ak. It inflicts damage much like the USAS but the recoil is heavier and it fires slower. It is more accurate but the shots contain less pelets. (Yes I counted against a wall...) It usually gets a headshot more time than the USAS if you jump around while in a close combat fight. I stroongly advise against uising this gun for a distance of more that 8 feet. IT will take a different ammount of shots demepding on how many pelets hit a person to kill them but I would say it takes about 2-4 shots to kills someone.
M3A1 - My favorite gun of choice. I think I'm top ont he stats for it too! Anyway this in my opinon, not proven by fact like the other guns, is possibly the best gun in the game IF you know how to use it. The recoil on it is unique. If you learn to use the recoil it can be one of the most accurate guns at long range. In close range fights if someone is using the Sig, M4, Mp5, or Ak it is usually beter. In order for it to better you need to know how to avoid bullets. Basically you just jump around in a circle. You both fire at each other but the guy on the machine gun will run out of ammo before you when you have about 10 shots left. This is your chance. Just go for a headshot at this point. I think the M3A1 is also a good gun to sneak up on people with, the sound sometimes scares them. It usually takes about 1-4 shots to kill someone with the Greaser. I usually get headshots with this gun. Usually you only have to put 4 shots into someone's chest before they die, the bullets tear out allot of armor.
Micro Uzi - I don't have much experiance with this gun but I do know it inflicts allot of damage. If you have a good spot where you can get close to the person and make all of the bullets hit it usually takes about 10-15 shots to kill a person. The firing rate, however, is extremly fast. It takes the same time to shoot about 6 bullets fomr the ak then it does to shot about 10 form the micro uzi. The armor absorbtion is a little heavy but this gun fires so fast its usually unnoticible if you sneak up on someone, and you get the first shot by suprising them, youre gonna kill them.
Now Pistols
M1911A1 Colt - This pistol does allot of damage but has a smaller clip size than the socom. Both his gun adn the SOCOM have the same ammound of accuracy but the SOCOM does less damage. The Colt is more for people who know that their bullets are gonna hit the person. It takes offically at the most 3 bullets to kill a person. I'm getting hat from DenKirson who leades the stats on the Colt gun. Hes a ally to GT and I know him personally.
SOCOM - Its really a shame that they saved all of the cool gadgets for single player but itd be cool to have some of those in the Muitiplayer Version. The SOCOM has a bigger clip than the Colt which means that sometimes it is a better choice. I'm not sure on exactly how many bullets it takes to kill a person but I think its about 2-5 for the SOCOM. Armor doesn't slow down the damage of this gun. If you have no armor and if you have armor it will do the same ammount of damage. But of course it depends on the damage zone you hit, but armor is still unaffected.
Black Talon - This gun is like a shotgun pistol. I find that the range is short but the damage is pretty decent. It absorbs armor much like the shotgun, but the distance is much less. It takes about 2-4 shots of this to hit someone.
Now grenades
Frag - These are the most commonly used grenades. They have a good blast radius and can take out mass numbers of people at once.
Incinedary - These are good to make blockades if you know the person you're trying to blockade has less than full health. They don't do allot of damage but they can scare people. Like Arch said this is the only weapon in the game that doesn't bother with armor If you get hit with this or walk in it your health will just go down and your armor will stay full.
Flash - Use these only when no teamates are around, it gets annoying to be flashed by your own team. They're good for suprise but you can't tell how much someone has been flashed so you kinda just have to go on instict by how the person is moving around after they've been hit.
Smoke - These are good to throw with a fire nade. They disguise the fire. They are also good to block a hallway and to suprise the enemy.
and finally
Knives - You have to learn how to use these by arching and cutting but their purpose is similar to the bayonett of the AK. Also you can use them on someone in a tower if youre out of nades.
Finally I can brethe... Hope that helps!
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